Skiing China!
Has anyone done this?
i work for a ski company in australia who does domestic but we are interested in getting involved in the chinese market.
So far i have been able to find very little information on the internet. if anyone has any experiences, contacts or information i would love to hear about it.
Thanks
Naomi






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Out of season, but...
Well, I have to admit, it's not exactly snow season. I guess you have to prepare ahead as a company. What kind of stuff are you looking to do? Tour packages for aussies? Or just set something up in-country?
Here are a few places I've heard of
Nanshan Ski and Jundushan Ski Resort are pretty close to Beijing.
In Xinjiang there is supposed to be some 500 million dollar project going up next year. Sounds a little nuts to me, but I'm not one of the investors...
Yabuli in Heilongjiang is supposed to be the best in China, but there aren't that many amenities compared to what skiers hope for sometimes.
I think there are a few others around Jilin city. If you want snow you've got to go north!
Ski Issue
You can also take a look at the ski issue we did about a year ago. We will be doing another Ski China Issue in November.
http://www.chinaexpat.com/magazine/2005/12/china-ski-issue.html
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China Expat Ski
Actually we featured China ski in the December 2005 issue of China Expat - you can still access it from the archives if you click on the magazine section of this website.
I've skiied in China - the main resort is at Yabuli, just north of Harbin. It was the site of the Asian Winter games a few years ago, and the Chinese Olympic ski team train there. Thats about the best resort in China. I also skiied down the Jade Dragon Mountain a few years ago - it's all offpiste so you need to know what you're doing. It's forbidden to ski down there due to the dangers, I had to run away from the Police as they furously chased after me at the chalet at the bottom. Not recommended. I also skiied down Changbaishan in Jilin, on the border with North Korea. Again, all off piste and really for experienced skiers only. You'd beest be going with a buddy as well just in case there's any problems. Otherwise China ski is still pretty much in it's infancy, although I did hear about some proposed developments in the Tian Shan mountains in Xinjiang. Other than that, the 'resorts' near Beijing are all snow machines and for novices. There's not a lot in the way of ski resorts here. Yabuli for tourists would probably be your best bet, contact details are in the December 05 issue.
Xiling Snow Mountain (Chengdu, Sichuan Province)
About 95kms from the Sichuan capital of Chengdu, Xiling Snow Mountain is a national scenic resort, which covers an area of 482km. With a summit of 5364 metres, it is regarded as being the largest and best-equipped alpine ski resort in China.
Chengdu has an international airport with flights to Amsterdam, Bangkok, Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Pnom Penh, Saudi Arabia, Shanghai, Singapore and so on ...
www.woccamedia.info
Water Skiing
It's summer, so I love the thought of snowy mountains, but I'd rather go water skiing. Any ideas?
Ski resort projects
The resorts in Northern China and the Beijing area are not that great (yet)...
If you're interested in setting up a resort in China, there is a lot already going on elsewhere in China! You should e.g. search for Xiling Xue Shan in Sichuan province, a great place for outdoor activities, but facilities are well below Australian standards. If you're interested, I can provide you with a lot more information. Send me an email with your contacts: ugersch@web.de
I might be able to help you if you're interested in setting up a travel agency for Aussies interested in great skiing and outdoors in China!
Skiing China
You might want to get in touch with Mr. Christoph Mueller from Hiddenchina.net (www.hiddenchina.net). He is a professional skiing instructor from St. Maurice who has been living several years in Beijing now and has organized skiing trips all over China.
Email: cmueller@hiddenchina.net
Skype: ch.mue
Mobile: 13521961071
The real scoop on Skiing in China
The reason there is a paucity of knowledge about Chinese Skiing among westerners is that, despite being quite a large industry, it is an industry that focuses almost exclusively on the Chinese market of 99+% beginning skiers. As such, most of the 100+ ski "resorts" are nothing more than beginners slopes by world standards. Not very appealing to educated wester skiers unless you just want to see a horde of chinese beginners point their skis down hill and crash as soon as they reach terminal velocity.
However, out of all these beginners, every year more Chinese are actually becoming real skiers and going to real ski areas in China of which there are a few. Every one has heard of Yabuli but it is tired, limited and in need of reinvestment (which is supposedly on its way in 2008), but two newer and much better resorts are available now, Wanlong in Hebei province and Beidahu in Jilin province. For my reviews on these site see www.chinaskitours.com. And then there is the planned new resort Ping Tian that will be the first major new Chinese Ski Resort marketed to westerners.
But there is also a great deal of misinformation about Chinese resorts out there so it is best to get as much information as possible before taking the trip. i have spent the last two winters exploring this industry and would be glad to pass on what I have learned to any one interested.
tnt@chinaskitours.com
Ski Issue
My site, www.chinaskitours.com (you may have to use a proxy server from Beijing) has up to date reviews of the major ski areas in China from a westerner's prespective. I have been in the ski industry for 35 years and am now working (and playing) in China. I would be glad to assist you on your upcoming ski feature.
Tom Tillotson
China Ski Tours, LLC
tnt@chinaskiours.com
Xiling Xue Shan
You are right that it is a beutiful spot and it is very large and developed. However, it has one major drawback. I admit that I have not skied this resort yet. However, my research indicates that despite being at the base of a 5364 meter mountain, it only uses 200 meter between 2200 and 2400 meters for the ski hill. It may be one of the most developed beginners slopes in the world but, unless my information is in error, I think it might leave any serious skier quite disappaointed.
tnt@chinaskitours.com
Dear Naomi, I was wandering
Dear Naomi,
I was wandering what kind of intersts your company has with skiing in China, because im trying to set up my own skiorganisation in China. And i am definitly interested in companies that want to try the same or better said want to work on this idea together. So if your company is interested in an extra employee that wants to set up such a organisation please contact me.
My email is globalmarcel@hotmail.com
greetings, Marcel
Powder Ski
Dear Chris
Cool. I was on Jade Dragon mountain a few years ago unfortunately during summmer. I could see the potential of lines, but when talking with the locals about the yearly amount of snowfall, I got disappointed. Looks like you had a really lucky day!
I was 2 weeks ago in Sichuan and saw one big face with 2 amazing lines! It's really hardocre, but if you're curious to see it, I will send you the pics.
Being 4 years in China, you are the first person I meet who is apparently serious into off piste skiing. I know some who are certainly capable, but would never go to Yunnan and ski Yulong or do some other similar funny stuff (means they are all French Sissies). Any plans next winter?
B.t.w. I have ava beacon, shovel, probe, ski touring gear and even airbag here, plus tons of skis to trash....
Pray for snow, the days are getting shorter!
ski china documentary
We have nearly finished producing a documentary about skiing and snowboarding in China, shot earlier this year. It's got just about all China's major ski areas / resorts. DVD copies will be available before the first snows. (PS - we even made it to Xiling in Sichuan, which does really suck by the way.)
Check the website: www.new-angle.net
or email me: anewangle@gmail.com
Release?
Very nice trailer and nice sound. We are all very curious to watch it in full length. When will it be released?
POWDER SKI
Dude, are you talkin heliski or gondola? easy to get tackle up there? I'd prefer boarding, but I can ski.. I;ve hardly looked around.. and i'm in kunming - what about around the Tibetan border or somewhere?
Heli Ski
Heli Ski in China is pretty impossible unless you are married to a daughter of an airforce General. Even then it would be difficult I guess. The only reasonable Heliski around China is in Uzbekistan. A trip there when 15 people is around UJSD 4500 all inclusive (flights, 5 days heliski/board and full board).
SKi touring is very limited due to the little amount of snow falls. I guess Xinijiang would be the only reasonable option.
employee
Well the chinese market is one of the biggest and the chinese love foreign merchandise
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