Before America, Fu Sang

The Everything Under Heaven Map

 

 

by Ernie Diaz

 

Perhaps you find the Internet’s bitter gift – the red pill, disillusionment – a little tough to swallow. Very well, take it in small nibbles. Start with the fact that no white man discovered America, not even those sea-savvy Vikings. It was the Chinese, more than four thousand years ago. And no, they weren’t dragging their knuckles across frozen land bridges, but sailing over with compasses and cosmological charts. 

 

Mind-blowing? Only to those who have taken their history like most of us take our vitamins: mass-manufactured, sugar-coated, and 98% worthless. Meanwhile, we have brave souls willing to follow the evidence trail, no matter where it leads, much as Yu the Great sailed from China at the command of his Emperor to chart all under heaven, and re-establish the four directions. That’s the beauty of China. Even history so ancient as to embody myth has been documented. Yu’s Shan Hai Jing, the Book of Mountains and Seas, is the world’s oldest geography. And its most compelling chapter is that on Fu Sang, the land to the East, the Americas.

 

“Sure, sure, so some guy Yu wrote a book of fables that could be construed as referring to the New World.” Cynicism is a feeble weapon against disillusionment. Confucius himself, in Chapter 6 Verse 1 of the analects, tells us, “Truly straightforward was the historiographer Yu.” Yu said it, Kongzi. For Yu describes a land almost twenty thousand li, or ten thousand kilometers, away, and ten thousand li, or five thousand kilometers, across. The book also describes plants such as corn and tobacco, habits of aboriginal Americans, and geographical features that correspond so closely to those of Mexico and America’s west coast that you’d practically have to worship Fox News to call it coincidence.

 

Alright, so how did ancient Chinese mariners ever rime it all the way over to the US, millennia before GPS, coast guards, and Love Boats? The truth can easily be subsumed beneath the mountains of information that pile up higher with each passing year. But Edward Vining, a nineteenth century scholar, did meticulous research on the advanced sailing techniques of ancient peoples, including the Chinese, and published it in 1885, in a book called Inglorious Columbus.

 

Furthermore, he told of a great thermal ocean current, a sea road such as the Vikings made such skilled and gory use of. It originates in the equatorial regions of Southeast Asia, flows north along Japan, on up to pass south of the Aleutian Islands, then down again to the northwest coast of America, flowing southwards along the shores of Oregon and finally petering out around central California.

 

In 1962, the Long Beach Independent Press ran a story of three amateur sailors who made it from Yokohama to the Long Beach docks after a 57-day, non-stop trip. Skipper Joseph Pachernegg told reporters, “The trip was so easy, an old woman in a rocking chair could have done it.”

 

Certainly so could have the ancient Chinese, with their compasses and ruddered ships. Oh yes, and their maps. In 1973, Dr. Hendon Harris, Jr. published a book, “The Asiatic Fathers of America,” claiming that the ancient Chinese arrived to become patriarchs to many of America’s so-called aboriginals. The son of missionaries, Harris grew up in Taiwan, translation of the Shan Hai Jing his great avocation. But not until he discovered an old map, in an antique shop in Korea, of all places, did everything lock into place. The “Everything Under Heaven” map showed not only land masses roughly equaling the size and shape of Africa, Europe, and Australia, but also Fu Sang, the Americas.

 

Everything Under Heaven for Sino-Dummies



Names on the map, their locations, and descriptions in both the Shan Hai Jing and the fifth century Liang Shu, cemented his conviction that Chinese much further from Columbus than he from us traveled and documented vast portions of the not-so-New World.

 

There was Equal to Heaven Mountain, matching the location and description of Mt. McKinley, the highest point in North America.

 

Chasm of the Bright Mountains must surely refer to the Grand Canyon, for nowhere else in the world are there mountains renowned for their luminescence yet beneath the earth’s surface, and 1500 li from Fu Sang’s west coast, at that.

 

White Lake at Cha Hill corresponds in location and description to Mexico City’s Lake Texcoco, five interconnected bodies of water, since drained and much reduced.

 

Then there were the accounts of monk Hui Shan, who journeyed extensively through Fu Sang in the 5th century, only to return to laughter and dismissal at the royal court, eight centuries before Marco Polo got the same treatment. His tales of “Decorated Head Country”, on the Yucatan Peninsula, must indeed have sounded fabulous to those who had never seen Maya nobles and warriors in their ultra-elaborate head gear. Ridiculous too, the tales of Women’s Country, the matrilineal Hopi tribes with their “snake husbands”, men who saw the serpent as both their progenitor and protector.

 

No doubt pseudo-skeptics, those who valiantly strive to stitch up the millions of rents in the fabric of our official mythologies, could and have had a field day poo-pooing such speculative, unscientific research. Lucky for them the concept of Chinese in America at least a millennium before Columbus, common on American curriculums in the early 20th century, was thrown down the memory hole after the advent of his national holiday in 1934.

Lucky for them also that solid scientific evidence isn’t nearly as important as media-directed attention in making things so. Big deal, so UCSD archaeologist James Moriarty discovered Chinese stone anchors off the coast of Palos Verdes, as reported in the November 25, 1979 issue of the San Francisco Chronicle. The anchors were encrusted with enough manganese to indicate they had been lying on the sea floor for at least 3,000 years.

 

If that seems old and suspect by its lack of coverage, how much more musty the following 1882 Canadian newspaper account?

 

“A few weeks ago a party of miners, who were running adrift in the bank on one of the creeks in the mining district of Cassiart made a remarkable find. At a depth of several feet the shovel of one of the party raised about thirty of the brass coins which were the type used for currency in China for many centuries. They were strung on what appeared to be an iron wire. This wire went to dust a few minutes after being exposed but the coins appeared as bright and new as when they left the Celestial mint. They have been brought to Victoria, and submitted to the inspection of intelligent Chinamen, who unite in pronouncing them to be upward of three thousand years old. They bear a date about twelve hundred years anterior to the birth of Christ.”

 

Ah well, if truth were common currency, there would be little to write about. We’ll save the Chinese roots of Native American tribes for your next nibble.

 

 

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38 Responses to Before America, Fu Sang

  1. Ernie says:

    Nationalism and reason can not exist together, but the annoyance of the former shouldn't prevent our adherence to the latter.

  2. China Tour says:

    Whatever others may say about China, the Chineses should be pround of our origin. Long history, vast territory, unique ethnic groups, no wonder so many people choose to visit China.

  3. Ernie says:

    Being pround of something you had absolutely no involvement in is what makes us human, all too human, not just Chineses.

  4. Krakatoa says:

    Sounds like yet another group swinging their nationalistic penis around claiming to have discovered America while disparaging American Indians who are the true founders of the American continent. I’m not sorry to burst your bubble but the Chinese do not get credit for the discovery of America considering the population that was already present there since prehistoric times. Didn’t the definition of the li have a discrepancy based on what dynasty was present at the time? It seemed that it wasn’t a settled matter since different groups were in disagreement in the distance a li covered. Also, I’d like to see some documentation of Chinese and Chinese-Americans getting massacred and essentially biting the bullet alongside Indians during the era of Manifest Destiny and the California Gold Rush before I would even consider giving the Chinese so much as a picometer of Indian heritage, culture and history. I know I’ll be holding my breath until sweet death claims me. Oh yeah, Asians benefited from the result of Manifest Destiny since they didn’t have to go through the hard task of ridding the good parts of the country of those pesky Indians, am I right? They just happily claimed the spoils Euro-Americans provided in their expansion across the North American continent. Model minority indeed.

  5. Ernie says:

    I’m sorry to tell you there’s no bubble to burst; but I can see how poor reading comprehension and an unearned superiority complex would make you think so. You just keep overdosing on self-righteous pills and lambasting willy-nilly, though. I can tell it’s your thing.

  6. There are recognized scholars on the topic of The “European” Age of Discovery who express
    uncertainty as to where most of the information on oceanic navigation suddenly came from in the mid 15th century. Some of them claim it was gathered by secret trips taken
    by Europeans themselves prior to the ones we have all heard about. Others claim it may
    have come from the Arabs. But rarely if ever will you hear from these scholars that it was in fact the Chinese because they had been mapping the skies and the earth for millinea. Its all over the internet and in numerous books. Two of the most famous mapmakers in world history were Zhang Heng and Phei Hsiu of the 2nd and 3rd centuries. You can google information on them on the internet. Their lives and accomplishments are well documented. If you would like more information on this topic you may visit my blog chinesediscoveramerica.com I believe I have discovered an ancient Go (Weiji) board in North (17 lines by 17 lines). Its a geoglyph, its huge and it can be seen from the sky. I plan to post this next month.
    Hendon Harris

  7. Ernie says:

    Be sure to let us know when so we can link to you, Hendon.

  8. As you requested this is to let you know that today I posted the article on the ancient Go
    Weiqi board located in North America. The board is 2 miles by 2 miles. Thats 2560 acres! The squares are appromiately 10 acres each in alternating dark green and light green colors. The site can be accessed by googling The John Fairbairn Ancient Go Board
    or by going to my site chinesediscoveramerica.com The mystery here is why this board
    is so large. It can only be seen from very high altitude. It was constructed to be seen from
    very high altitude.

  9. Krakatoa says:

    >Unearned superiority complex
    Right, a non-Indian talking down to an Indian about superiority complex totally disregarding the history of claiming and reclaiming Indian history and origins on the smallest sliver of “evidence” and not even being skeptical about that. Yeah, I’ll tell my K’iche and Quechua relatives next time I visit about my complex. I’ll even tell ‘em a yarn about how the Chinese discovered the Americas. I know they’ll need a good laugh on those cold treks to the nearby mountains to harvest some taters. Keep overdosing on the paternalistic attitude of knowing more than Indians. Skins know it’s a non-Indian thing.

  10. Ernie says:

    Goodness, it took you two and a half months to come up with that comeback? The fact that you think you’ve earned your superiority complex by your skin and relatives disqualifies you from further debate. I have relatives from Arequipa and Cusco, while we’re waving our native roots around, but it doesn’t make me too thin-skinned to entertain a different viewpoint. Hope you can get over yourself accordingly.

  11. Krakatoa says:

    >Sees your picture
    >Bearded white looking Latino
    >Not Native at all
    It sure is pretendian in here. A lighter-skinned individual talking down to a darker-skinned person about having a superiority complex when history in the Americas have strongly suggested this to be the opposite. What disqualifies you from this “debate” is that you didn’t grow up Indian and as such you didn’t experience Indian history distorted from many facets across the U.S. (Afrocentric, Eurocentric and Sinocentric combined). Have fun in that white skin of yours. It affords you a sanctuary from the amount of BS real Native people had and continue to go through with regards to history… or the manipulation of.

  12. Ernie says:

    You have the wrong picture, mentally and physically. I’m Ernie Diaz; and I wrote this article. My father’s from Peru, not that it really matters. The premise of this article is that the Chinese came and visited the aboriginals long before Caucasians did. Not that it matters to you. Any excuse to rant and revel in your protected PC status, ey? But it’s tiresome arguing with self-righteous fools, so I hereby decree: No one is allowed to write about early America except people like Gtard, aka Krakatoa (clever), who because of the coincidence of blood fully appreciate the suffering of aboriginals and the atrocities of the Pale Face. No one can write about who may or may not have been to America, unless it richly covers the aforesaid suffering and atrocities, lest they suffer the irrelevant, misguided comments of the aforesaid Gtard. Sincerely, a semi-mestizo labeled a Pale Face by the reckless Gtard, for whom reason means nothing in the face of a good chance to advertise his treasured minority status, and aforesaid suffering and atrocities.

  13. Ernie says:

    Thanks a lot for your efforts, Hendon. I’ll be sure to check out the site, and hopefully provide a useful link.

  14. Today I posted another article regarding Hwui Shan and his reported trip to the
    Americas. Recent geoglyphs found in Colorado and a huge rock anomaly nearby
    in Utah have a decidedly Hindu “flavor” to them leading me to believe that there
    appears to have been a Hindu influence in the 458 AD Buddhist expedition.
    Church Rock, Utah looks like it may have similarities to the ancient Ellora Caves
    in India. You can access this by googling Church Rock Ellora Caves or at my
    blog chinesediscoveramerica.com
    I have no desire to disrespect the original inhabitants of this wonderful land. Their
    culture survives to this day as evidence of their strength and culture. National Geographic
    Magazine has reported that the Native American population in 1491 was possibly as
    large as 32 million. For anyone to seriously claim that they were the original discoverers
    of any land with an indigenous population of that size could today claim they “discovered”
    your car in the Wal Mart parking lot and claim it as their own. Having said that it’s
    my personal belief that Native Americans were originally from Asia and migrated to North
    America. DNA, Mongolian birth spots and evidence too numerous to enumerate here
    provide more than ample scientific evidence that Native Americans, most Mexicans and
    indigenous Central and South Americans are genetically linked to Asia. As far as I know
    this is an established fact. What is in dispute is once the original migration happened
    what if any contacts with the original Native Americans took place throughout history and if those contacts did occur what if any cultural, technological or religious influences were left here and
    absorbed by the indigenous population. That’s the question and what a question it is.

    Hendon

  15. Ernie says:

    Wow, Hendon, wonderful work – and approach. Thanks yet again! We can only hope that less rational, dedicated minds are reading and learning.

  16. Both maps that you show above are copyrighted by me and no one asked permission to post them. If you are going to show them you need to at least credit the source – my books. Please refer your readers to – The Asiatic Fathers of America : Chinese Discovery and Colonization of Ancient America (my abridgement of my father’s text) and my book Secret Maps of the Ancient World. Both those books are available on the internet including my web site http://www.HarrisMaps.com or by inter library loan. Currently I am working about another book about my family’s map collection.

    This is a complicated subject but if people will approach it with an open mind and read the well documented argument from academic sources (including DNA evidence) they will be more likely to agree.

  17. Ernie says:

    Begging your forgiveness, Ms Rees. Much less time-consuming than asking permission, to be frank. Anyone reading this, get over to http://www.HarrisMaps.com, now. That’s an order! Beautiful maps, by the way.

  18. Where is the largest pyramid in the world located? If you said Egypt you would be wrong. Not
    only would you be wrong but the pyramid you picked is less than half as high as the correct
    one. The reason I mention this topic is because the tallest pyramid and the surrounding pyramids involved the making of huge building blocks and the moving of a huge amount of earth. The
    size of this project is almost beyond belief. Did I forget to say that these pyramids are Chinese
    and are located in China? The fact that these pyramids and the geoglyphs that are now being
    discovered in China and around the world but especially in North America are Chinese simply
    demonstrates that the ancient Chinese were experts in huge earth projects that required art
    and engineering skills that few (very few) believed they had. It’s time we give these ancient people the credit they deserve for their accomplishments.

  19. Ernie says:

    Thanks for the info, and the inspiration for an article, Hendon!

  20. Ian says:

    The only problem, even chinese scholars agree to say it’s fake map. And same for some others of that type who came out along the years. The last debate about it, a year ago, here in china, end the topic nicely by saying, that chinese never put a foot in the new continent and never new about it before the west told them about it. But it’s not a big deal, lot of people from different origin of the world have been said traveling in the americas even before the 4000 years as you say about chinese. Like the japanese are beleived to have found a way to equador about 5000 years ago. So at the end it doesn’t matter much about who first came in americas. The simple truth is that who ever came long ago, the native american had their own cultures development. That, later the European came and conquered the new lands and installed their own culture there which is the dominant one now. So viking, japanese, chinese, celts …they may all have one day found a way to the americas, their foot print have been long erased by time. And only the native american indian cultures have a last song to be sing among the european descendants. And Hendon, the chinese pyramids are very small and recent, compare to the one in mexico and egypt. You should travel more and read less whatever books you want to beleive in. But it’s still good to try to find out more about the world. Even often we let our desires blind the facts.

  21. Ernie says:

    Sources on your scholars and “debate” or you’re just another hyper-sensitive PC drone, and a cheeky one at that. Hendon studies this as his father’s and his own life’s passion; what exactly puts you in a position to dismiss his theories out of hand?

  22. Ian says:

    what put me on a position …
    The simple fact that is a forum right?
    For the sources, I invite you to come in china where I live for almost 20 years, and where chinese scholars on TV also talk about their history and where they said a year ago, without me reminding theirs names that this map and others of her kind were fake.
    Beside that i can’t be more precise. So yes free of you to beleive whatever you want.
    Have a good day.

  23. Ian, I stand corrected. When I described the tallest Chinese pyramid as twice as tall as the tallest Egyptian pyramid I was in error because that claim although believed by many and purportedly seen by at least two European pilots flying over it the existence of that pyramid has never been proven because that specific huge pyramid has
    never been located. The tallest verified Chinese pyramid is about a third the size of the
    tallest one at Giza. This whole fascinating topic is however clouded in mystery because of the prior denials of the Chinese government up until recently and their unwillingness to
    acknowledge these structures as pyramids similar to the ones in the Americas. Their location at Xi’an or ancient city of Chang’an (capital of the Han Dynasty) add to the public’s interest as well.
    However, Ian you are incorrect about the authenticity of the Harris Maps and the scores
    of identical maps found in large museums and map collections such as the Library of Congress all around the world. These maps have been researched by reknown cartographers from all over the world and acknowledged as historically based. These
    very old world maps which some have tied back to the long missing Shan Hai Jing map
    format have been discovered in Korea because these maps found safe haven there for reasons too detailed to get into here.
    There is a map found by a Chinese attorney in China recently that is apparently the only
    one of its kind. It has been subjected to critical analysis including strong staements challenging its authenticity. I do not know enough about that particular map to take a
    position on it myself. However, I would caution you to be slow to making a snap judgement because of the current ongoing research and discovery in Asian cartography. Additional research on this topic is about to be published.

  24. Ernie says:

    All perspectives welcome – but if you patronize a man we respect for his scholarship then expect comments in kind.

  25. At the very top of this posting page is a picture of the Harris Map which is a Korean
    Ch’onhado and a Chinese Tian Xia map going back into ancient times. The common
    wisdom is that although China, Korea and Japan are actual countries depicted on this
    map that the rest of the images are of mythological locations. Interestingly the locations on the maps of these so called mythological places have not changed over the centuries that these types of maps have been in circulation. If you look closely at this map you will see why.
    If you look at the left of the map it doesn’t take a lot of imagination to see the continent
    of Africa. Directly above Africa there is a “closed in” large body of water or a Sea that
    would be where the Mediterranean Sea would be located. To the right of Africa is a large
    amount of land that would be where India would be on such a map.
    An interesting part of this is the attention given to the Saudi Arabian Peninsula tucked
    in between a body of water that would be the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf. Why such attention to this particular location? Could it have anything to do with the location of
    a world reknown religious site located there? What do you think?
    Take a look at the above map and see if you can locate what I have pointed out. As you
    do this please have an appreciation of the time, effort and travels that it took for the ancients to accumulate this knowledge .

  26. Ernie says:

    We certainly do appreciate it, Hendon, as well as your ongoing scholarship.

  27. james W. says:

    All very interesting!!! However, you cannot judge a person of what decent they are by the color of skin. All men have different tones of skin…….i.e. africans have been noted blond hair blue eyes and so have Apache, or me for another example I have hazel eyes and a yellow or olive tone but everyone else in my bloodline is darker than me and have brown eyes……so when you put variants of what people should look like, remember to put the oddballs of your people into the equation and see if they are all the same as you. You will not. I have heard of fusang through my anscestors medicine shield teachings so sacred that they are passed only orally not written…. but best believe that early ancestors did know of this great cultural mixing pot long before early westernization.
    The difference of all this is that people cannot let go of personal gains to be free of cultural suppressions. Everyone has to be right! When your cup is full, drink it so that you begin a new cup empty and fresh to build upon. Without a strong foundation there is no structual support…..and all great things must come to an end.

  28. James W. I have read and reread your posting several times. Thank you for your comments. The part I am still savoring is “I have heard of fusang through my
    anscestors medicine shield teachings so sacred that they are passed only orally
    not written…but best believe that early ancestors did know of this great cultural
    mixing pot long before early westernization.” Wow! Well said.
    I have recently come across a significant cultural connection that in mt opinion
    ties Hinduism to the proud culture of Native Americans. For thousands of years Indians from India have celebrated a fairly complex wedding ritual or ceremony and it is
    called the Seven Step Wedding Ceremony. At the conclusion of the wedding celebration
    which can go on for days the bride and groom complete the celebration by taking their
    walk of seven steps around the sacred flame. As they take each of the seven steps both the bride and the groom make a vow to each other. This walk is ALWAYS TAKEN IN THE
    CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. That is a critical part of of the process. What is very interesting is that Native American tribes all over North America celebrate the exact
    same ceremony down to the last detail. Google “Native American Wedding Vows”
    How is that even possible unless someone from India brought that tradition to North American sometime in our ancient past? But thats not unique. Why does Church Rock
    Utah bear such an uncanny resemblance to the Rhamek Stupa in India where Buddha
    is reported to have given his first teaching? If Buddhist/Hindu monks did come to North
    America in 458 AD as many of us believe does it take a leap of reason to believe that they
    might carve a mountain image to resemble such a place so holy to them. But there’s more. Just 25 miles from Church Rock, Utah are two huge geoglyphs. One resembles
    the ancient Hindu sacred flame and the other resembles Nataraja (Shiva-Lord of the
    Dance) Google: “Ancient Buddha Lotus Flower Tree of Life Colorado” or go to
    http://en.flickeflu.com/image/5220272640
    As much as we think we know there is so much yet to be learned.

  29. Will there ever be hard evidence that connects Hwui Shan’s expedition in 458 AD back to China or ancient India? If a large ancient India Buddhist stupa (ancient tomb and temple) constructed in the Gupta period style (4th to 6th century) were found in North America and certified by experts would that be the necessary proof?
    Two very large (in fact one is the largest Buddhist structure in the world) ancient India
    Buddhist stupas have been DISCOVERED WITHIN THE LAST TWO HUNDRED YEARS.
    One was discovered near Mumbai and the largest one in the world, Borobudur, was found
    on Central Java, Indonesia. Therefore its safe to assume that if another lost ancient stupa
    were rediscovered it would not be the first time nor would it be implausible because its already been done. That would be true normally but what if that large ancient stupa were found in a place that only a very few believe that ancient Buddhists traveled?
    A place like North America for example.
    After much research and reading on the highly defined contruction and design requirements for ancient India stupas I have come to the conclusion that Church Rock,
    Utah may be such a place. Google: “along highway 191 in southern utah church rock”
    for the best available photo and then “rocksea ajanta caves india” for pictures of some
    different styles of stupas. For images of huge stupas google: “Rhamek Stupa”or”The Great
    Stupa, Sanchi”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Per_Honor_et_Gloria/Indo-Greek_kingdom
    http://worldhistoryatyhs.wikispaces.com/Design+Elements+of+Temples
    What would cause anyone to believe Church Rock might be a stupa?
    1) It looks like a stupa because of its shape (see stupa designs mentioned above)
    2) Although right off the highway it stands alone and a stark contrast. There is no similar “erosion” in the immediate area.
    3) Stupas always had a carved arched entrances. The entrance here is a carved arched entrance which was reported to have been “done by recent locals”
    4) There appears to be a carved figure (perhaps Buddha) to the upper right of the
    carved arched entrance. (See picture “along highway 191 southern utah church rock”)
    5) Stupas have a border that runs along the bottom. This formation has a red border.
    6) Ancient stupas were reported to be covered in a plaster like material. At the very top
    of the large lower mound there appears to be a plaster like substance between that mound and the next one up. Its not snow because it always retains the same shape in
    multiple pictures.
    7) Stupas were ALWAYS made from the top down. Although Church Rock is very steep
    on three sides and could be said to be finished on those three sides one side is still sloped
    like one would expect if this was an unfinished stupa when it was abandoned. The slope
    was a designed way for much easier access to the unfinished work area for those working
    to complete the project.
    As interesting as all this may be it doesn’t prove anything. What is needed is expert
    scholars hopefully from India with advanced knowledge of ancient India stupas and then
    possibly a team to find the sealed opening into the center (assuming there is a carved out
    center core which is more than safe to assume if this is in fact a stupa)
    What I have left to last is that every stupa has a treasury room where the ashes of Buddha or other Buddhist notables are buried (like the basement of St Peters in Rome
    where the popes are buried) along with religious treasures and artifacts. Charles Leland, author of a book on Hwui Shan and Fu Sang went so far as to say that when and if Buddhist temples (stupas) were ever located in North America that they would likely be storage places for Buddhist treasures trasferred here from China to avoid confiscation by a Chinese emperor in the 10th century who hated Buddhism and tried to destroy Buddhism and capture their precious artifacts.

    If this topic interests you please help me locate experts to either confirm or deny
    the premise. One would think that Buddhists particularly in America would be
    interested in this question.

  30. As the result of James W. ‘s posting on July 13, 2011 in which he referred to his
    “ancestors medicine shield teachings” I have been wondering if there were even
    more connections between ancient Americans and the Hindu/Brahmanic/ Buddhist
    culture of ancient India where Buddhism originated and from where Hwui Shan and
    his team of four other monks were raised as children and taught what they learned of
    Buddhism. We already know that Native American tribes all over America even today
    celebrate as their own custom the Seven Step/ Seven Vow Wedding Ceremony walked
    clockwise around the sacred flame which originated in ancient India. But what if any
    other connections might there be? I believe I may have found traces of several. I will
    not go into much detail here but give you the clues to follow up on your own.
    1) How about the Native American “medicine circles” and “medicine shields” and how
    they compare to the “mandalas” and the “yantras” of the religions/culture of India?
    2) How about the Buddhist checkerboard or chess patterns seen on the structures at the
    Borobudur Temple on Central Java connected to the area of Buddhapada( the importance of Buddha’s feet) and the possible connection to the numerous checkerboards/
    chessboards found in North America? Google: “Joseph Needham Alberta Chessboards”
    3) How about the possible connection between the Buddhist/Hindu Manji (swastika) and
    the Native American’s “Whirling Logs” (swastika).
    4) How about the world famous “balanced rock” in Myanmar (Burma) called The
    Golden Rock and the Buddhist focus on “the middle way” ( balance) and the scores of
    “balanced rocks” in the southwest United States with “Mexican Hat Rock Utah” just one
    example? Google: Balanced Rock Images
    5) Lastly, how about the similarities between the Sanchi Temple and countless other
    ancient temples and carved caves in India and Asia and Church/ Stupa Rock Utah?
    These are just a few of the possible connections. Do you know of any others?

  31. For those of you still having a hard time believing that Hwui Shan or any other ancient from Asia or anywhere else for that matter ever made it to North America before Columbus I believe I have a surprise for you. The person who took this picture called this
    image “The King”. (their words-not mine) Could this image have been carved in honor
    of that famous Buddhist King of India–Ashoka? If so it may not be the only art created
    in America’ to honor him. There is another image located at Longs Peak Colorado in the Henriette Mertz Collection of Geoglyphs that is now called the “Akkadian King” because at the time I located it I was not aware of King Ashoka’s image with a braided beard and his possible influence in the Americas. King Sargon was the only king I was aware of at the time who had a braided beard. However Sargon does not have the possible links to N America that King Ashoka possesses. Here is the head in Arches National Park. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15197746@N03/3424222571/
    Is there any possible way that an image with this much detail can be natural rock?

  32. Breaking News: Google: “News for 17th century Chinese coin dug up in Canada”
    In June 2011 archaeologists dug up a Chinese coin dated 1667 to 1671 in the Yukon.
    The story broke to the press on 11-1-11. However the only newspapers that have picked
    up the story are in Canada or in Australia. Why do you think that this is so??

    MesoAmerica scholars are so busy attempting to prove that no cultural influences of
    any kind helped shape our Native American past that it seems it can be said that they
    either “Can’t handle the truth” or “Refuse to handle the truth”

    Does there not appear to even the most casual observer to be enough evidence of ancient
    Asian influences in North America for some North American scholars to consider?

  33. If someone were to suggest to you that the famous Wise Men/Astronomers at Bethlehem Judea to pay tribute at the birth of Jesus were possibly Han Dynasty royals from Weiyang Palace in Chang’an China it is not as improbable as it might at first appear for the following reasons.
    1). The Silk Road linking Chang’an and Rome and the rest of the Mediterranean had been in
    place for at least two hundred years. The Silk Road was actually a number of land and sea routes
    that connected Asia and Europe and the Middle East. Arab merchant/sailors were a big part of
    this transfer process.
    2). According to the Internet the Chinese had been predicting eclipses for centuries prior to this
    and tracked all celestial activity with scientific fervor. This is of record and acknowledged.
    3). One of the numerous routes of the Silk Road was a sea route that went from China to the
    East coast of Egypt where the passengers and goods were transferred over to the Nile and then
    floated down the Nile to Alexandria where they could then proceed on to their ultimate destination.
    4). Interestingly the last port of call before the Egypt portage/transfer point was Somalia.
    Somalia was probably the best place in the world to buy frankincense and myrrh. Check this
    out on google for yourself!
    5). The Han Dynasty and their administration were on full “red alert” for a dynastic change in
    China. The 210 year term that the Chinese nation anticipated was the length of the Han Dynasty
    was rapidly coming to an end. Astronomers were searching the skies for “signs and omens” and
    others were using divination to determine when and where the next King/Emperor would appear.
    (Source: The History of the Former Han Dynasty Vol. III by Pan Ku/ Translated:Homer H Dubs
    6). Whether you view the Biblical account as a collection of myths and legend or the Inspired
    Word of God there are patterns that reoccur throughout the entire text. One of the major themes
    is the use of contrasts. To illustrate this point one only has to read of the boy versus the giant,
    Gideon’s 300 against thousands, 5 loaves and 3 fish feeding hundreds etc etc.
    And then there’s Bethlehem—According to the Biblical account the Son of God (King of Kings) was born in a barn in Bethlehem because there was absolutely nowhere else that would or could
    accommodate this event. This was a barn in every sense of the word. Without getting too graphic
    about what a barn contains suffice it to say this was not a likely place for any human birth much
    less any kind of “king”. Common men (shepherds) heard of this event and came to observe.
    This represented the first half of the contrast. What about the other side of the contrast.
    The Biblical account tells of a sky ablaze with a heavenly choir of angels. It was a terrifying site
    until those humans present (the shepherds) were assured that they were selected to be witnesses
    to a heavenly explosion of praise because of The Event. The other aspect of the regal side of the
    contrast was the arrival of “The Wise Men of the East” bringing gold, frankincense and myrrh
    to pay tribute to this baby. They had been following some sort of astrological anomaly that brought them to this place. The Biblical account does not tell us much more these “Kings”

    Is it possible and does it not fit into the Biblical contrast pattern that this child born in this humble place may have been honored by royals of untold wealth living the the largest and most regal palace in the whole of human history. This will never be able to be proven true but the
    facts exist to show that at a minimum it was physically possible.
    palace in the whole of human history

  34. For those of you who may be still scratching your heads about my last article on the Silk Road
    sea route and it’s possible use by the so called “Wise Men” of Bethlehem fame I have another
    mystery for you concerning this very same path connecting the Mediterranean area with ancient
    China. The most famous of ancient western mapmakers was Claudius Ptolemy (c.AD 90-c.AD168). He was an ethnic Greek with Roman citizenship living in Alexandria, Egypt. He was
    a brilliant man by any definition. His interests and his writings covered topics from geography,
    astronomy, astrology, mathematics, poetry and music among others. We have access to what he
    wrote because of the great respect given to him by the ancient Arab world. Although most if not
    all of his original writings were in Latin those were in large part lost or misplaced. We can read
    what he wrote because his writings were retained, studied and revered by Arab scholars. This
    is where they remained for centuries until they were retranslates back into Latin. Today all
    scholars worldwide with any interest in the topics he wrote about are well aware of his accomplishments and writings.
    The mystery of Ptolemy’s life and achievements is that they are strikingly similar to those of
    another brilliant man who lived in Chang’an China–Zhang Heng (78-139 AD) who was born
    just 8 to 12 years BEFORE Ptolemy. Although these two brilliant men lived thousands of miles
    apart from each other and there is no record of either direct or indirect contact between the two
    of them they both lived in the major terminal cities of the Silk Road that connected the two major
    trading parties of the ancient world.
    The similarities of these two men’s writings, the descriptions of their maps, their fascination with
    astrology (which is not science) as well as their interests in poetry and music. Really–How many
    scientists have you ever heard of who have written world class poetry and had an interest in
    music? I invite you to use your search engine to read the Wikipedia files on both of these men
    so you can arrive at your own opinion as to whether these two men ever had access to each other’s works. Eurocentric scholars have a major incentive for that connection never to be
    completed. In my opinion further evidence that might make the connection might also show that
    much of Ptolemy’s work and theories had their origins in ancient China.

  35. We will probably never know or truly appreciate the influence of Alexander the Great on the ancient world. Although he died in his early thirties his travels and conquests connected cultures and transferred influences between these cultures in profound ways. We know that Buddhism when it originated around the 6th BCE in India borrowed heavily from the Hindu culture which
    preceded it. For the next 1200 or so years Buddhism and Hinduism shared much in common even
    as Buddhist missionaries travelled at first to Greece, Europe and then to the rest of Asia and perhaps to other parts of the world. Within two or three years of Alexander’s death, King Ashoka’s
    grandfather conquered most of India and established a new dynasty. When this transfer of power
    took place cultural, art and architectural influences from Greece, Rome, Persia and even Jordan
    were introduced into India and into Buddhism and Hinduism. That is why when King Ashoka came
    into power, converted to Buddhism and sent missionaries all over the known world to spread his new faith they took to these new cultures these same Greek, Rome, Persian and Jordanian cultural influences as well as their own Indian ones. These influences included the uses of arches, columns,
    rock carving techniques etc. that had been previously unknown in India. These influences can be found in many places one of which is the Hindu/Buddhist stupas. This point is extremely important to understand in the recognition of ancient Buddhist ruins. In addition to the standard
    Buddhist/Hindu styles there are quite possibly also going to be evidences of Persian, Greek and
    Jordanian art and architectural styles there as well. An example might be why the extremely thin
    walls of the Park Ave rock faces in Arches National Park in Utah bear a similarity to the walls at the
    King Midas Tomb in Turkey. Another possible example is the image of the Queen Nefertiti Rock
    also in Arches National Park (which appears to me to be an image of a King Ashoka Lion Column), Mexican Hat Rock (which appears to me to be a large chattrya–Buddhist parasol which show up on the top of Buddhist stupas) etc.
    So remember if inexplicable art or architectural influences show up in out of the way places you
    now know how they might have arrived.
    http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Pacific.htm

  36. Hendon Harris says:

    For information on the influence of Vedic Buddhist in North America one need not go any
    further than the oral prophetic record of the Hopi Native American tribal people. This
    record has been passed down through the generations. Interestingly it tells of a reunification with “an ancient brother” from across the great ocean. Recently significant
    parts of these prophecies have been memorialized. For access to this material google: “The Hopi Prophecy and Buddhist Symbols”. Google: “Were the Anasazi People Buddhists” and
    “Mandalas Mantras Manjis and Monuments”.

  37. Hendon Harris says:

    Just recently I came across a beautiful picture of the oldest extant Hopi pueblo built in
    approximately 900 CE when the Anasazi people were still here in North America with
    about 400 years left to go before they suddenly disappeared. You can see this picture by googling: “Walpi First Mesa by Ansel Adams”. It was after seeing this picture that I realized
    that the Hopi culture at least in their past were “sky walkers” just as their cultural ancestors
    the Anasazi were. The Anasazi were also people who enjoyed living above the valley floors in homes hewed out of cliff faces, built into cliff faces or on the top of the Mesa or
    mountain just like Buddhists or Buddhist monks have preferred to live since ancient times.
    Google: “Buddhist Mountain Top Monasteries”, “Five of the World’s Most Inaccessible Monasteries” and “Anasazi Cliff Dwellings”. This preference for “sky walking” just like
    Buddhists takes on more significance when you realize all the other symbols, customs and
    monuments that they also share. It gives more credence to the question “Were the Anasazi
    People Buddhists?” and “Are the Hopi and Navajo People Also Ancient Buddhists?” as suggested in the scholarly works of Jeanie Martinez Welles and Peter Gold. At a minimum
    it’s worthy of serious scholarly review. In conclusion it’s also interesting to note that in the
    building of enormously tall high rise buildings in New York City and bridges across North
    America that Native Americans have been sought out as iron worker “sky walkers ” because
    of their balance and apparent lack of discomfort with working without safety belts at high
    altitudes.

  38. Hendon Harris says:

    China is only one of four countries that are host to the 14 largest land bridges in the world.
    These enormous rock structures are listed in “The Tour of the Big 14″. Twelve of the 14
    are clustered either in China or specifically in the Four Corners region of the USA once home to the now departed Anasazi (Puebloan) people who suddenly left North America around 1300 CE. One of the two remaining “Big 14″ was recently located in Afghanistan (Gandhara), an ancient advanced Buddhist civilization once home to Hwui Shan of Fu Sang
    fame in the 5th century as well as the “Giant Buddhas” there also dating to that approximate time. Gandhara was a major city on the Overland Silk Road connecting China with Europe. The last of the 14 (Aloba Arch) is located in Chad Africa far from the
    other three locations. Google: “Forgotten Wonders in the Dead Heart of Africa” The amazing rock formations in Chad bear such a striking resemblance to similar formations in North America, China and Southeast Asia that they scream out of an ancient connection.
    Google: “Mushroom Rocks USA” “Mushroom Rocks China” “Mushroom Rocks Africa” and “Mushroom Rocks Thailand”. If you view these formations (some of them with Buddhist monks in the images) you will see the similarity.
    Vedic India has apparently been home base to the greatest stone carvers of all time. For examples of their work google: “The Ellora Caves” and “The Giant Buddhas”. King Ashoka at first and after his death others not only used them in India but sent Buddhist missionaries out to evangelize and spread Vedic culture and technology as far as they could travel which I believe included Africa, Europe, North America as well as Asia. The Four Corners area of North America has so many “natural” arches that we have a national park there named “Arches National Park”. This park alone has over 2200 arches which are commonly thought to have been created by natural erosion. However, few people realize that the Torana (freestanding gateway arch) is a sacred image in all Vedic religions including Buddhism. The Torana is basically a frame to encompass the image of Buddha or other Vedic religious image. Therefore the most important part of the Torana is the Sacred Ground Immediately Under the Arch on which that image rests. Therefore its of particular interest that the American Navajo tribe recently unsuccessfully sued the U.S. government to keep the 300,000 tourists who annually come to Rainbow Bridge (a very sacred place to them and also one of the “Big 14″) from coming close to Rainbow Bridge and walking across The Ground Underneath the Arch. Does this sound familiar? Google: “Rainbow Bridge Hendon Harris” and “Buddhist Symbols Customs and Monuments”.

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